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survivor
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50 day EMA tests
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September 14, 2005, 01:59:56 AM »
Here are the test results for the 50 day EMA:
Stock :KLIFpts
System :EMA 50: Todays close included
{Buy when price > ema and similar sell: always in the market: No stops}
Entry Type :100% at Signal + 0 days CLOSE
Exit Type :Max Duration = Signal + 0 Days CLOSE
Sub-Head :LONG + SHORT Only WITH system exits
From :11 Sep 01
To :09 Sep 05
Nos trades :53
ALL TRADES:
Pts Std Norm
Average = 4.2 0.57 % 0.61 %
MAD = 20.0 2.80 % 2.74 %
StDev = 26.7 3.87 % 3.65 %
Maximum = 90.8 14.60 % 12.90 %
Minimum = -29.5 -4.39 % -4.01 %
Std Err. = 3.7 0.53 % 0.50 %
t = 1.1 1.08 1.22
Total = 221.5
Buy&Hold = 251.8
Winners = 16
Avg Win = 37.3 5.21 % 5.13 %
SDev Win = 26.3 4.09 % 3.58 %
Max Cons. = 3
Losers = 37
Avg Loss = -10.1 -1.43 % -1.35 %
SDev Loss = 6.9 0.97 % 0.92 %
Max Cons. = 9
Max DD = -121.0
Conclusion:
1. more or less the same results as a Simple MA.
2. the order of the profits are similar to the brokerage and slip fees which will be paid.
3. Since the comm.+slip etc is such a large factor,use of limit orders can be highly benificial
4. Must test the system with limit order , the above results are for market orders.
5. Same story....Make the broker rich!
6. Who can take 9 losses in a row and not be fazed?
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Here are the results for the un-adjusted series:
Stock : KLIFSP***UNADJUSTED***
System : EMA 50: Todays close included - ***UNADJUSTED***
Entry Type : 100% at Signal + 0 days CLOSE
Exit Type : Max Duration = Signal + 0 Days CLOSE
Sub-Head : LONG + SHORT Only WITH system exits
From : 13 Sep 01
To : 12 Sep 05
Nos trades : 65
Comm + Slip : 2.5
Stock :KLIFSP
System :EMA 50: Todays close included
Entry Type :100% at Signal + 0 days CLOSE
Exit Type :Max Duration = Signal + 0 Days CLOSE
Sub-Head :LONG + SHORT Only WITH system exits
From :11 Sep 01
To :09 Sep 05
Nos trades :65
ALL TRADES:
Pts Std Norm
Average = 1.4 0.24 % 0.14 %
MAD = 18.7 2.55 % 2.48 %
StDev = 31.5 4.60 % 4.24 %
Maximum = 139.5 21.97 % 21.31 %
Minimum = -39.0 -5.09 % -5.97 %
Std Err. = 3.9 0.57 % 0.53 %
t = 0.3 0.42 0.27
Total = 88.9
Buy&Hold = 251.4
Winners = 16
Avg Win = 39.3 5.43 % 5.17 %
SDev Win = 44.6 6.93 % 6.00 %
Max Cons. = 3
Losers = 49
Avg Loss = -11.0 -1.45 % -1.50 %
SDev Loss = 8.3 1.12 % 1.22 %
Max Cons. = 11
Max DD = -105.5
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Slippage cost
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September 14, 2005, 09:35:11 AM »
Survivor,
Your slippage + commission cost at 2.5pt is for every single trade? Ie, you have a 0.5pt commission and 2.0pt slippage for every buy, every sell, every short-sell and every short covering?
Is this right?
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survivor
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commision + slip
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September 14, 2005, 12:47:41 PM »
Hi Teepo,
The estimates for the commision and slip etc are for a round trip:
0.5 pt commision for entry ( I have assumed the whoever trades like this is a pro and he certainly will be able to negotiate at least a RM 25 commision rate = 0.5 pt)
0.5 pt for Exit commision.
0.5 for market order at entry. (assuming the last order was a buy for long entry)
0.5 Pt for market order at the exit. (assuming the last order was a sell for long exit )
0.5 for roll overs, on average with this kind of long term trading you will be rolling over,say 1 in four trades maybe before the end of the Contract)
Total = 2.5 Pts... say
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